User talk:Jugermai

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-- Wikimedia Commons Welcome (talk) 13:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Changing titles of images to have the location followed by what the image actually is about

I've noticed a ton of submissions from you requesting files be renamed to have the location (all of them seem to be in Canada) preceding the actual contents of the image. If you want to add the location, simply add it to the appropriate category unless the image name needs disambiguation for some reason. There is no valid reason for every image from a location to have that location in the title of the image (again, unless it needs disambiguation for some reason). Please help me understand why you're doing this. Was there a discussion somewhere that determined this needed to be done? Thanks! ···日本穣 ^{Talk to Nihonjoe} 23:13, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi there! I understand how insane I look. I am working as an intern for the Archives of Ontario, who are the original uploaders of all of these files. They have asked me to rename these files, so as to sort them by location, so they appear in that order on the site. I hope that makes sense.

We aren't sure if there is an easier way to sort the folder /without/ having to alter the file titles, we have been looking into it but if you know how please let me know.

Forgive me, I am new to Wikipedia editing, and a few people in the office are also learning as they go with the uploading project. Jugermai (talk) 23:28, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

I think for what you want to achieve it would make more sense to create a gallery (or even a set of galleries) of only the Archives of Ontario's uploads, which gives you a lot more freedom in terms of which order and what presentation you want to give these images. Let me know if that sounds like a good idea. ReneeWrites (talk) 07:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

I don't know quite what you mean by "folder", but if you're talking about categories then you can override the sort key for a file either in respect of a single category or by default for all categories the file is in. To do it for a single category, change the category link to have the sort key after the category name, so [[Category:Things|ABC]] to sort a file under ABC in Category:Things. To set the sort key for all categories, use the {{DEFAULTSORT}} magic word, for instance adding {{DEFAULTSORT:ABC}} to the file description will make it sort under ABC in any category for which it doesn't have an explicit sort key.

I don't know whether there's any consensus on whether it's appropriate to use {{DEFAULTSORT}} on files, but it's quite common to override the sort keys for an individual category to achieve an order that makes sense for that category. For instance I created Category:Media from the Basic Korean Dictionary and sorted it by the identifier used by the source. --bjh21 (talk) 13:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)